Thursday, December 29, 2016

HADES - JOSEPHUS

ACTS 2.27
27Because you will not leave my soul in Hades, Neither will you allow your Holy One to see decay.
oti ouk egkataleiyeiV thn yuchn (psueche-soul) mou eiV adhn(hades) oude dwseiV ton osion sou idein diafqoran
oti ouk egkataleiyeiV thn yuchn mou eiV adhn oude dwseiV ton osion sou idein diafqoran

THE APOSTLE PETER CLAIMS....

"The soul" of Jesus ("my Holy One") was "in Hades"  
The body of Jesus was in Joseph's tomb and would 
have suffered decay except for His resurrection.

THE APOSTLE PAUL'S MENTIONING HIS NON-PHYSICAL BODY TO PARADISE
  (2 Corinthians 12:4Revelation 2:7 both use it.),
       2 Corinthians 12:4;
2
I know a man in Christ, fourteen years ago (whether in the body, I don`t know, or whether out of the body, I don`t know; God knows), such a one caught up into the third heaven.
3
I know such a man (whether in the body, or apart from the body, I don`t know; God knows),
4
how he was caught up into Paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
Peter's explains his  Psalm 16 claims...
         ACTS2"29-36 "Brothers, I may tell you freely of the patriarch David, that 
he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. he foreseeing this
 spoke (in Psalm 16) about the resurrection of the Christ, that 
neither was his soul left in Hades, nor did his flesh see decay.
Therefore, being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him
 that of the fruit of his body, according to the flesh, he would raise up the Christ to
 sit on his throne, This Jesus God raised up, whereof we all are witness
es.
Being therefore exalted by the right hand of God, and having received from the
 Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he has poured forth this, which you now
 see and hear.
For David didn`t ascend into the heavens, and his body,
 but he says himself, 
`The Lord said to my Lord, "Sit by my right hand,
Until I make your enemies the footstool of your feet."`
"Let all the house of Israel therefore know assuredly that God has 
made him both
 Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified."

VERSES 29-30 

Therefore, being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him 

that of the fruit of his body, according to the flesh, he would raise up the Christ to 

sit on his throne, This Jesus God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

IT SHOULD BE OBVIOUS.... WHAT ARE THEY WITNESSES OF?
THEY  WERE WITNESSES OF CHRIST'S RESURRECTED PHYSICAL 
BODY!  What Peter argues here is not the existence of our soul--THAT 
WAS ALREADY KNOWN--A PART, OF THIER THEOLOGY--already a
known; a part of their belief, but WHAT PETER IS ARGUING AND  
WHAT HE IS PROVING ISM THAT WHICH THEY SAW--WITNESSED
IS THE PHYSICAL RESURRECTED BODY OF JESUS CHRIST--THE 
HOLY ONE WILL NOT SEE DECAY-ROT.  The body of Christ will be 
resurrection--"not see corruption."

Peter interprets Psalm 16, and restates what  David clearly understood would 
happen to  himself
(David)-that is his body in the natural cycle of death--his body would go the grave and his 
and see corruption(rot), and his soul going to Hades("Abraham's bosum"-"Paradice" part 
of Hades).  Peter's proof-text was "
In other words, David's corupted bones are still is in 
David's Tomb--David's tomb is still there--check it out.

David, both died and was buried, and 
his tomb(bones of his body) is with us 
to this day.
2:31 he(David) foreseeing this spoke about 
the resurrection of the Christ, that (Christ)
neither was his soul left in Hades, 
nor did his flesh see decay.

Peter inadvertently mentions "soul". 

The Greek word used  is the same Greek
word used in Septuagint's Genesis 2:7 
and as obviously contextually while 
speaking of Jesus. That is Jesus' soul, 
non-physical non-decaying part of 
Jesus, which means Jesus was not to left 
in Hades,  so obviously that's where He 
was.  Jesus explains Hades in 
Luke 16:23, Matt. 11:23, Luke 10:15

Jesus' flesh (the Greek word for flesh(
sarx) can not
mean spiritual body), but His fleshly body with 
the wounds of crucifixtion would have suffered 
decay save His resurrection and 40 days later 
ascendency)

This sarx-flesh meaning became an important point 
much later in the Christian Church Council debate 
over a supposedly Christian teaching that was really 
a Plato-inspired belief that Jesus' body was never 
physical (soma), but only a spiritual body  
see John 1:14  

JOSEPHUS WHO WAS A NON-CHRISTIAN 
JEWISH GENERAL IN 67-70AD ROMAN-JEWISH 
WAR.  HE WAS THE MAJOR JEWISH HISTORIAN, JEWISH
TEACHER OF JEWISH RABIES 



AN EXTRACT OUT OF JOSEPHUS'S DISCOURSE TO THE GREEKS
 CONCERNING HADES.
"1. Now as to Hades, where in the souls of the righteous and the 
unrighteous are detained, it is necessary to speak of it. Hades is a
 place in the world not regularly finished; a subterranean region, 
where the light of the world does not shine; from which circumstances,
 that in this place the light does not shine, it cannot be but there must 
be perpetual darkness. This region is allowed as a place of custody 
for souls, in which the Angels are appointed as guardians to them, who
 distribute to them temporary punishments agreeable to everyone's 
behavior and manners.
2. In this region, there is a certain place set apart, as a lake of 
unquenchable fire, wherein we suppose no one has hitherto been
 cast; but it is prepared for a day at fore-determined by God, in 
which one righteous sentence show deservedly be passed upon all men;
 when the unjust and those that have been a disobedient to God... 
shall be adjudged to this everlasting punishment... I'll adjust shall 
obtain an incorruptible and never ending kingdom.
These are now indeed confined in Hades, but not in this same place 
where in the unjust are confined.
4. But as to the unjust, they are dragged by the force to the left hand,
 by the Angels allotted for punishment, no longer going with the 
goodwill, but as prisoners driven by violence; to whom there are sent 
the Angels appointed over them to reproach them and to threaten 
them with their terrible looks, and to thrust them still downward. 
Now as those Angels that are set over these souls, dragged them into 
the neighborhood of hell itself... They have the nearer view of the 
spectacle, is of a terrible and exceeding great prospect of fire, there 
are struck with a fearful expectation of a future judgment, period.. 
For a gulf and deep and large is fixed between them; and so much that
a just man that have compassion upon them, cannot be admitted, nor 
can one that is unjust, if he were, pass over it.
5. This is the discourse concerning Hades, wherein the souls of all men 
are confined until a proper season, which God hath determined, when 
he will make a resurrection of all men from the dead, not procuring a 
transmigration of souls from one body to another, but raising again 
those very bodies, which you Greeks, saying to be dissolved, do not 
believe (their resurrection:) but learn not to disbelieve it; for while 
you believe that the soul is created, and yet is made immortal by God,
 according to this doctrine of Plato, and this in time, be not incred-
ulous, but believe that God is able, when he has raised to life that 
body which was made as a compound of the same elements, to make it
 in mortal; for it must be said of God that He is able to do some things,
 and unable to others." P. 637, "JOSEPHUS Complete Works"

THE CREDIBILITY OF JOSEPHUS' WRITINGS.
Among the early writers, such as Tacitus and Pliny , (non-Christians), 
was this Jewish first century historian,Flavius Josephus. They all 
testified to the life and works of Jesus. Pliney taking part in 
persecution of the Christians, was no Christian sympathizer, and 
Josephus was a young Jewish priest.  He had been given command of 
the Galilean military post during the Jewish-Roman of  67-70 A.D. 
Josephus, who completely lacked military experience, wasted most of 
his time in suppressing various opposing factions of Jews. He was soon 
captured in 67 A.D.. Obviously, Josephus living only a few years from 
the days of Jesus is ministry, would have a high credibility as to the life of Jesus. Just as obvious there would be critics saying the mentioning of Jesus, came from later 
Christian insertions.

Recently a Jewish professor at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, 
countered those critics statements with this observation: "it does not 
mention any involvement of the Jewish leaders and Jesus in trial. A 
good test of authenticity: any Christian apologist tempted to tamper
with the text (Josephus's words) would almost surely have mentioned 
the Jesus's role... His disciples... Reported that he had appeared to 
them three days after his crucifixion and that he was alive; accordingly,
he was perhaps the Messiah concerning whom the prophets have 
recounted wonders." P. 55, time magazine, February 28, 1972.







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